
By Guest Writer, WWG
It’s the cry of most women, no matter whether they have only a suitcase’s worth of stuff, or enough closets to make Mariah Carey and Imelda Marcos jealous – “I have nothing to wear!”
I admit, I’m more the latter, but this was what came out of my mouth when I recently had to get ready for a date. There are so many factors involved with getting dressed that go beyond just the clothes in your closet. First, there’s the weather. Then there’s the ups and downs of your weight according to your cycle. I don’t know about others, but even two pounds can make a huge difference in what clothes I can wear or not wear. And then, there’s the real question – how should I dress for her?
I made a huge mistake on a first date shortly after coming out. I super-femme’d it up. I wore a dress that showed deep cleavage, and showed off most of my back, along with 3 inch heels. I looked great – if I was going to a nightclub. My date showed up in a button down shirt (plaid – duh
) and shorts and sneakers. We looked like a total mismatch, and we were. I have no idea if her nervousness was in part due to my outfit, but she looked at me like I was a lioness about to, ahem, eat her alive. And not in a good way.
The date ended with a wave – yes, I said a wave- as she hightailed it out of there after, scared.
I learned another valuable lesson with that date. Dating women is not the same as dating men. Oh, I know, that’s obvious right? Not if like me you’ve got over 10 years of knowing and expecting what makes men tick. If I’d been on a date with a man, I have no doubt that outfit would have gotten me waved in the direction of his bedroom. It’s been an adjustment shifting from dressing to attract men to dressing to attract women, all while staying true to myself and my own style comfort zone. One of the things an (albeit somewhat ignorant) former acquaintance said when I came out was “don’t cut off all your hair and wear baggy clothes just because you’re a lesbian now!” I got what she meant – don’t change yourself for who you like.
As we know, many lesbians do go through a huge appearance change when they come out, many with the pendulum swinging the exact opposite way. For some lesbians it’s about finally dressing in a way that makes you feel comfortable, and coming into your own, and for others, it’s about thinking that’s how you have to dress to be gay . So, despite her choice of words, I think my acquaintance gave basic good advice, no matter who you date. I don’t want to change myself. I just want to be comfortable with myself and have my date be comfortable and attracted to me too.
For those of you who live in cities (aka those of you who have no car to store an extra outfit in) versus those who live in the suburbs or rural areas, there are also other issues with getting dressed for a date. For me, as a city girl, I have to be aware of the shoes I’m wearing because I’m going to be wearing them all night, with no reprieve, and we will likely be walking quite a bit. But I still want to look cute! Not to mention, you have to layer things just right so you’re not too hot, nor too cold, because if you’re too hot, you could find yourself carrying that sweater all night long. Not sexy. (Although being too cold can be fun if she offers you her coat. Romance bonus!).
I admit it, I PANIC before dates. I can get home, shower, put on makeup, get dressed and out of the house in about half an hour for events with NYC’s most fashionable in attendance, but for a date? Three hours, minimum. Two of those hours of course are spent taking clothes out of the closet, trying them on, tossing them away, trying on other outfits, wondering semi-seriously how much time I have to dash out to a local store to buy a whole new outfit, cursing myself for not having the perfect complimentary item to whatever outfit I do want to wear, and more. We’re not even getting into all the other femme dressing parts that are required for dates! That takes time too!
After awhile of staying away from dating, I recently had a new first date. After going through my entire closet, cursing every item I had and didn’t have, I finally settled on a fitted pair of pants I love. And then, I settled on a pair of favorite heeled boots that were one inch high – perfect for walking, but still cute and femme. And then I wore a favorite sweater on top. For once, I wasn’t ridiculously all styled up for a date. I felt comfortable. And you know what? I looked pretty darn cute.
And she thought so too.
Meh, I don’t like dressing “for her” if it’s only the beginning of a relationship. Who is she? I’d rather dress for me, and if she doesn’t like it, well, we’ve saved each other the trouble. I can understand at least putting an effort into one’s appearance, but that’s about it. I can be eccentric in dress, so I’m not going to tone it down for someone who may not even be in my life the next week.
Sweater carrying TIP:
Large purses and bags. Unpack this for the date, so you have the money you’ll be needing, and anything else in your arsenal, as well as making sure it will fit your folded sweater or coat beforehand. Also, I love a blogger named Queer Fat Femme’s idea of storing an extra outfit away; go into the restroom and change for a sexy switch-up, haha.
And congrats are your recent fun date!
*On your
The date was a comfortable success because you kept it real. Your date wasn’t intimidated because you looked like a real girl rather than one stepping out of the glossy pages of a fashion or bondage mag. You were comfortable so she was comfortable. There was no “get up” so she could look past your clothes and see you. Sometimes the high style clothes create barriers and don’t let a person get next to you. Better to focus on the things that draw them near like making sure your hair smells intoxicating, wearing fabrics that are irresistably touchable.
I can definately relate to this post…. 1st off I would like to say dressing for yourself is always best becuase it leaves you feeling confident and we all know confidence is absolutely sexy! In addition I know if I am feeling good in what I am wearing I am more relaxed. Confidence meshed with a relaxed vibe is a great mix for a good date!
Now seeing as I was with men up until 5 months ago I absolutely get the difference of dressing for a woman vs a man… If I have 2 dresses that I like and one shows more skin and the other a little less, the one that shows a little less is what I now pick. Men tend to want the skin. Women, at least my X girlfriend and a couple others I know like sex appeal without it all out. A little mistery and the ability to unwrap the package to get a good look at what’s inside!
@Elegy – i tend to dress according to my mood. I’ve worn super dressy dresses to dive bars and jeans to fancy events. First and foremost, i dress to please myself, but i do like to take my date’s personality into it a bit, as well as where we’re going. That said, the “for her” comment was as much general as particular. Part of this blog and my blog posts here have focused on the ways im adjusting to being out, the differences i’m seeing as a woman who thought she wanted men and all that entailed as opposed to a woman coming into her own, both through acceptance of my sexuality and myself.
Many lesbians rightfully get annoyed by how the straight world projects their relationships and identities onto us. As someone making that crossover, ive enjoyed relating the issues , questions and changes ive faced as a femme lesbian in my 30s.
I did dress for me when i went on that date. I love that dress and those heels and felt sexy in them. But i also recognized why it wasnt good first date material with a woman. I was used to trying to get men to view me sexually so that there wouldnt be emotions there. It is, as rexie said, something of wall, which i wasnt aware of until my date’s reaction. Besides, ive realized id prefer to save that kind of look for after awhile of dating when she takes me on a fancy dinner date as something of a reward for us both.
i’m learning how to date for my own happiness, not someone else’s, which is what dating men was – making everyone else happy but myself.
And yes, part of that happiness is still dressing to make my date attracted to me – whether that be in jeans or fancy gowns. In that arena, i am versatile, as long as im comfortable.
Hello WWG – I hear you, lady! Trust me when I say…we butches love you femme ladies sooo much!
Reading “Stone Butch Blues” right now and…it is a trip down history lane; hurts to the core; but, we need to keep things going on a positive level.
I am so sure your date; if not an idiot…would be positive about you no matter what!
You’re a good woman.
I love this! …. the infamous “What not to wear” episode of real life.
Although there are basic differences in dating women vs. men, I think the real difference lies with the person.
It’s natural to want your date to think you’re attractive, and the first impression almost always starts with your looks. If you had some chance to meet and/or converse with this person before the first date, you may already have some general idea of her (or his) style and be able to guess what the “hots” and “nots” are for this person.
From experience, I find that the best way to dress for a date is to start with what you’re doing. If you’re going hiking, then you may want to leave the heels at home. If it’s a simple coffee date, think of what you might wear when you’re going out for the day with a group of friends. If it’s the normal dinner scene, you could look up the place you’re going and check out the dress code. (I’m a city girl, so this is pretty common for me
In all, comfort is the most important factor, and doing a little bit of research may help ensure that you (and your date) feel the most of that.
@alaskafemme – Agreed on the comfortability part. That makes everyone more confident and sexy. I’m glad you understand and can relate to my post. That’s exactly the difference I was referencing.
@Femmelover – Thank you. I’m sorry to say I have yet to read Stone Butch Blues. I clearly need to.
@A second look – hahah how did you know I used to love “What Not To Wear?” I have no idea why they canceled it dammit! True, the place or plan of the date is the first thing I think of of course. The worst is getting caught wearing something totally wrong for the plan of the date.
And yeah, I don’t think it’s wrong to dress in a way you think your date might find cute. As long as it’s already in my closet and I’m not trying to be someone completely different than I am, then I am being true to myself. For the date referenced, the place turned out to be a really nice place – nicer than she expected. She hadn’t been there before and neither had I. I had looked up the place so that’s why I dressed up so much. I guess she didn’t which is why she felt underdressed. So it was partially a misunderstanding of the location. Also, we didn’t really talk much before the date so I didn’t get a good read on her. I went by the website of the place more than anything.
WWG! get over to a bookstore! amazon! whatever! and get stone butch blues!!! i’m thinking about reading it again soon. LOVE IT!!
it does seem like there’s some sort of dress code for dating women. ugh! i get ya.
here’s the thing…fuck ‘em!
if you’re feeling that revealing clothing…bust it out! i can’t go out with anyone (including my friends) without my heels and feel like myself!
if i don’t “feel” sexy. i’m not gunna look sexy. and i’m not gunna have the confidence i need to spark any interest.
i’ll admit to merely skimming through the comments. i’m only responding to the blog. lol. sorry…
WWG, you wrote, “I was used to trying to get men to view me sexually so that there wouldnt be emotions there.” Right, you can substitute sexiness for emotions and most men don’t even realize what’s going on. It’s a way to keep yourself safe, I guess.
When you’re used to presenting this image of what you think men want and then shift to being yourself, it’s a process because there are so many layers there – what men want, what society wants, what church wants, etc. I actually went back to some pictures from before I was eleven, looking for the natural me before those layers were piled on. I have to say, I kind of like her. Why does everyone feel the need to change us? Why can’t they just let girls be girls?
Kenda- WOW you were right on – hit a personal cord w me and my experiences- “When you’re used to presenting this image of what you think men want and then shift to being yourself, it’s a process because there are so many layers there – what men want, what society wants, what church wants, etc. I actually went back to some pictures from before I was eleven, looking for the natural me before those layers were piled on.” This leaves me speechless on a personal level, wow. Those damn painful “layers” take years to break through BUT a day at a time and strong sense of self worth CAN be achieved as I proudly say after moving out in October from the apt I lived for 4yrs after the occurrence of the attack- after being w an a-hole man because “a woman MUST be w a man”- eye roll. I’m so happy now (well I DID spend all day today with Crush
but that aside). I’m happy because the hard times absolutely do NOT break you they make you (stronger).
Sarah M- You wrote- “I can’t go out with anyone (including my friends) without my heels and feel like myself!” This is SOOOO true
I totally agree! I definitely can not go anywhere without my heels. My co-workers always notice my various shoes lol since my job gets VERY intense and not one you’d match w 5 inch heels (one you’d need “big guns” hehe (other post reference) to protect yourself but heels not so much- so I have both
hehe).
WWG- “I’m learning how to date for my own happiness, not someone else’s, which is what dating men was – making everyone else happy but myself.”- Right on- I totally agree/understand this- great point of personal reflection- set off personal light bulb for me.
Jaz – you moved this last October? I remember you saying something about wanting to move but maybe being nervous about it. Good for you! I hope you’re happy in your new place.
Kenda – yes I did
(thanks)
WWG because it seems like we femmes have this very exact problem. i thought i could share this article on your post. hope you don’t mind. it kind of made me smile…
http://inourwordsblog.com/2012/01/05/looking-gayer-a-conversation-with-a-bigot/
Wow I wonder if my girl was going thru this for our first date, although what she wore was cute and simple, her off the shoulder shirt had my mind wondering about if the hem would dip any lower.
I’m glad I am tomboi because getting dress is the easy part. I already know what button up to wear with what jeans and shoes before I even walk thru the door. The hard part is getting her to leave the house knowing she looks great in what ever she has on, but it come with being with a femme and I love it.