By Guest Writer, Elegy
How do you feel about knock offs?
My position didn’t so much evolve as much as sprout into blossomed existence after posing this question to a peer and being given this succinct gem: Personal style has nothing to do with designers. I appreciate the effort that is put into creating not just one piece, but a cohesive collection. That is the result of sleepless nights and mental breakdowns (or staring down the cliff) so I respect it. I’ve seen the ground-up break down of sourcing and design, and have myself participated in parts of the process. I just don’t mind knock offs- not anymore. Not everyone can afford to pay full price, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be able to dress as they’d like. If you love it, rock it.
Why I’m comfortable buying knock offs:
I’ve tasted quality, made some buying mistakes, and at this point I feel bolder about seeing something and discerning whether or not the quality is good enough to compete with the “original” (nothing’s original, but I digress). And- at least when it comes to the major brands (think fashion powerhouses)- studies have shown that they’re not actually losing money- those who buy the knock offs are not typically in the brand’s target market.
When I will buy a knock off:
When it’s well known that the price you are paying is for the brand: in many cases you are paying for the brand. After a certain point the price tag versus the material and technique reaches a plateau- anything above that range means you are paying for the privilege of the brand, and the prestige that comes along with it. But hey, if it’s a really pretty thing and there’s nothing else like it- go for it! (Oh, also if you can afford it… don’t break the bank). If there is something just as nice comes along… I know where I’m headed! Example: I’ll be a little less controversial and just say take a look at ASOS’ sales some time. Some items will list their RRP (recommended retail price), which is often times 100-200 percent more than the cost of an individual piece after buying in bulk. Gotta turn a profit.
When that very specific item I want: doesn’t come in my size! Agh! Especially when it comes to shoes since I’m a half size.
When that very specific item I want: is no longer available. I discover a lot of wonderful things 1 to 5 seasons too late. Alas and alack.
And, I dare to say it, sometimes I like the look of the knock off better. It happens- why pay hundreds more when the imitation is far more enticing?
When I won’t buy a knock off:
When it comes to really high caliber works you just can’t imitate. Example: corsets. For the love of whatever it is you believe in (like maybe “comfort”) do not get a knock off corset. Not if you plan to have it on for longer than 30 minutes, and even then… Make it 10! The only exception being it’s an underbust you plan to use as a fancy belt. The knock offs fundamentally cannot give you the shape and support a higher quality corset will due to the very nature of the cutting monetary corners they go through to list them at that price.
Independent designers, specifically those who are mainstream and more accessible: I don’t want to take away from what they’re doing (which, in a lot of cases involves keeping the jobs in-country) and most of these business are run by one person (exception being those that have grown successful enough to begin hiring out- and all the more reason to support them!).
There’s a certain amount of love, care, and pride in one’s work that emanates from such designs.
Sales! Sometimes there are sales, darling! Internet and in person, you’ll find stock needed to be chucked to make room for the next season. You’ll have annual sales, semi-annual sales, and the good ol’ fashioned monthly sales! Coupons and codes as well. In person you’re e more likely to encounter sample sales, especially if you live in a big city with a well-established fashion hub. Sometimes the sales tip the price just in your justifiable favor, sometimes they won’t, but they’re an option. Just remember, 9 times out of 10 all sales are final when it comes to these- know your size!
Brand loyalty- it’s a product of the second and first point, in that order. You cannot replace excellent customer service and presentation. I’m only loyal to a few brands, they earned it, yet I still feel that the brand does not make the wearer.
When it’s just so specific. This ties back in with point one: sometimes the outline, the silhouette is quite unique. Sometimes it’s that only one company has the machine to stitch the item “just so.” Sometimes the brand is the only one sourcing (or creating in rarer cases) the fabric and base.
And of course, lastly, when the lovely item is not expensive.
P.S.
There’s something to be said for DIY: If I can get the base and accessories, I’ll take that path.

Kinda on a tangent, I can empathize with not always being able to find your shoe size. It sucks.
From the age of ten on, shoe shopping has been an absolute nightmare for me. I have huge feet, in all dimensions. While men’s shoes that fit are available, and they work fine for everyday oxford type things or to get athletic shoes, I want to wear heels or other girly shoes occasionally. For instance, I want to wear women’s shoes with my wedding dress.
I *may* be able to help with that- do you mind saying your size? I say may, because I do know of at least one website that caters to making feminine shoes for those with a shoe size 10 and up. I don’t know how they are width wise, but they may also be wider, or have some options.
It ranges from 11 to 13 wide…depending on style and brands.
lol, at least I’m not 4’9″ and wearing a a size 10 anymore; I used to trip over EVERYTHING for a couple years there.
And of course check the returns policy to see if you agree with it. They seemed reasonable to me, although the ones on Amazon will be a case-by-case basis.
http://www.barefoottess.com/category/special-fit.awide_fit/
Here’s the Amazon link, I started it out at 11.5 since I didn’t know your size at the time, you can customize it:
http://tinyurl.com/bs9vhs2
When you click on a shoe, then go to the size chart, it’ll tell you what the letters stand for.
http://www.designershoes.com/
If you find something you like there, let me know! If not, still, let me know as I’d love to help.
I love the, if you love it rock it, part. I agree.
I also agree with the quality issue. I can spot a “bad” fake a mile away. But there are some very passable fakes, and believe me you will pay more for a good fake then a bad one. But it’s worth it.
As for me, I don’t care if its fake. But I also don’t give a crap if it’s designer I’m sort of anti-label because of working in the gem industry, I dealt with some major houses and knew for a fact that just because a ring had a specific name attached to it, it would easily sell for $150,000 but it was “worth” (and I use that only in as much as the materials and labor can be counted) perhaps $15,000. After knowing what the markup is in certain industries, it just makes me sick to think of paying retail price for something that can be made for 1/100th of the sale price. It’s sort of principle thing for me?? Lol. I just can’t bring myself to pay for the name.
“I dealt with some major houses and knew for a fact that just because a ring had a specific name attached to it, it would easily sell for $150,000 but it was “worth” (and I use that only in as much as the materials and labor can be counted) perhaps $15,000. After knowing what the markup is in certain industries, it just makes me sick to think of paying retail price for something that can be made for 1/100th of the sale price.” UGH, this exactly! Most of the brands I deal with do not have this problem (I suppose it’s a problem- eh?), but I am very aware of it.
As the saying goes “fake it till you make it”
Well even if I “make it” (meaning hit it big $$$ wise I still would not care about brand names because they don’t care about me (universally used “ms” in this example).
Lol Jaz, I’ll be faking it even when/if I make it!!! Lol
But I’m seriously not a fashion diva. I’m so simple it’s almost sad. This is my day to day “look” I guess? – staples like black, white, grey long skinny tanks, baggy tee shirts that I cut up and Capri jeans in dark wash or a light wash, that’s my ode to the 80s. Or black skinny jeans, Yoga mat flip flops or cute wedges with a big hobo purse in a metallic.
I can buy my staples at Target, or Ross. I don’t want to spend a lot on simple things. As long as They fit well.
I do however put some money into my shoes (besides my sandals I mean. I can easily spend $200 on heels and not feel guilty at all) – but that’s nothing compared to women then can spend $10,000 on some heels. So it’s all relative. To me $200 is about my limit for shoes or purses.
So basically, my clothes can be inexpensive. But my shoes, purse, sunglasses and jewelry will not be. I always say I put $$$ where it counts, where quality really does cost a little extra $$$ …. But jeans are jeans. All I are about is how my ass looks. Not what name is on it.
I like to dress like it’s the fashionable apocalypse or dystopia (probably wearing the guise of a utopia). Think Rihanna circa “Good Girl Gone Bad” and “Rated R” and then graduate to Underworld, Anti-Hero, Superhero, Manga, 80s rocker babe, etc. And then pin-up; jeans and a tee; tee and just my undies (for home, also maybe a bra at home on a painful day).
As for shoes… I usually wear cheap-ish combat boots (not Docs, and the last pair of Demonias I wore destroyed my heel- but I plan to try again within a year since I’m more experienced with shoe picking) in my day-to-day life because it’s a practical choice. On such occasions when I’m afforded the ability to glam up, I like to wear heels that make a statement through their silhouette and detailing. My current faves are my patent red stilettos with spikes lining the heel since they’ve blended both the classy yet sexy red stilettos while stilling honoring my love of punk, rock, metal, and goth. I also enjoy my knockoff thigh highs, they’re better looking to me than other thigh highs in my preferred price range, and they’re actually cheaper than those I had been eyeing (yet wasn’t totally in love with). I would have loved them even if they weren’t knockoffs.
I then like to incorporate things people wouldn’t expect of me. Bright pink, animal plushies. Basically, if you think you know my fashion some day, I’ll probably end up surprising you. I just love so many things! And I’m rarely in the mood to change an outfit five times a day just to suit that need to wear everything always.
I also rarely wear jewelry. I know accessorizing is supposed to be key, but I think it hails to my tomboy, horse-back-riding roots when I feel that “rings [accessories] get in the way!” I wore two rings that actually fit earlier me this week (I have tiny fingers so most rings fall off- also, I wore them on my thumb, I felt very lez) and it just felt… Odd. Like they didn’t belong there, haha. And of course I’ll throw in a compliment for Sasha’s jewelry: I love the necklaces I have, and I don’t feel like they get in the way of my personality or my life! ;P
I don’t think I really have a price range for items (in my head- not my bank account, mind you!). It’s much more, “Do I love it?” “Do I love it *enough*?” Can I find similar that I like equally or more, for less?” The answer to those questions determines whether or not I’d consider it worth getting.
Am I a “fashion diva?” Not to my acknowledgement. ;P
*Beyonce’s “Diva” starts to play*
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I am definitely in a RUT!! I used to be so much more into clothes but over the last few years I think I got more into hiding then showing off …. Only recently am I feeling more like dressing more interestingly. …. When I go out, you can be sure I’ll be in my 4 inch stilettos or the 5inch ones I just got that look like they should be in a bondage magazine.
… Skinny jeans, lots of black. I play up the cleavage and my hair and face. Lol. I know that sounds funny, but I like to be simple with a few stand out things, and hopefully on a really good day one of those things should be on my face. Lol.
Ahhh, why must we be on opposite sides of the country?? You know I’d make you wear some of my clothes! Or maybe you’d just steal them for a day or two (ahem, I meant “borrow”), like my friends do.
I also wear lots of black. “I’ll stop wearing black when they make a darker color.” My mom pointed out and made a friendly joke of my shoe collection a couple shoes ago. I excited told her I’d bought another pair and she replied, “They aren’t black, are they?” Me: “Yes, why?” Total deer-in-the-headlights until my brain flashed all my shoes before me. “Oh.” To date I proudly own my recent red shoes, and I also have these faux snake-skin shoes which are kind of on the grey side. That counts as not-black, right? Haaa.
My current goal is to acquire more dresses, skirts, and start getting back into bold make up looks, at the times when I do wear make up. Do tell about these bondage magazine shoes!
Speaking of coupons….
A really nice coupon site is
http://www.retailmenot.com
where you can type in the name of a store or brand and get oline coupon codes and such to use at the checkout online. Super nice
One of my favorites, if I’m buying from a new site, I check there first (well, I actually Google [site name] and coupon code)!
Love that I just found this! I dress when I go out, so I have a few things that I keep. But, for the most part, I’m a simple dresser in day-to-day wear. I scuff around the house in a fitted-t, and a pair of jeans or low-rise sweats…but going out is fun, and I like to look good for myself and the person I’m with.
I spend money on ‘accessories’ – watches, shoes, purse, sunglasses, and simple jewelry…the rest, to me, is about ‘fit’ and ‘quality of fabric’. It’s amazing how cheap some designers have gotten to increase their profit margins…and how much some new designers have increased their offerings to compete. But I’ll spend it if it’s worth it. In my good items, I buy things that are pretty flexible – so they just don’t go with ‘one’ outfit…they’ve got to have some use to justify the cost.
…and I definitely invest in some great lingerie….but of course, while I have nice day-to-day underwear, you’ve got to have special things for special occasions.
It seems you girls really know how to kick it!
Jul:
At home I am typically the t and undies type! As for accessories, I love them, but I often forget I have them. I’ve just got this collection of interesting things that rarely see the light of day. I’m not one for rings, but I do enjoy bracelets and armlets- necklaces mostly.
Also: shoes counted as accessories? Which shoes are these? I have accessories for my shoes.